Which power supply are you using? What is the voltage at the SW “bridge” near the power connector?
Looks like your power supply is too weak – I think the 8.96V you have measured is without load, right? As soon as you connect it to a circuit, the voltage drops to 5.8V and this is not enough for the regulators. Try another one.
So at which point do you get 5.8V?
What are the voltages on the I / O / (-) pins of the 7805 and I / O / (+) pins of the 7905?

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I think you’re measuring the voltage at the two electrolytic capacitors in front of the voltage regulators…
Hmmm, this is not really what I asked…
What are the voltages on the I / O / (-) pins of the 7805 and I / O / (+) pins of the 7905?
Voltage regulator:
Argh! I am also having power test problems now. I’m using a 12-volt power supply, 500ma, that’s putting out 17v at SW. The readings at the indicated coloured dots, with the LT1054 (IC7) in are minimal, .06v, and are reversed polarity. I checked the polarity of the polarized caps and they seem to be in the right place, and I assumed the long lead of the 4.7u caps was positive. The regulators are installed with the heatsinks facing the outside of the PCB.
Any ideas? Someday, maybe when I do my 20th Shruthi, I’ll actually get one to work first time.
Randy
Looks like you have fried the LT1054.
If you don’t get minus the input voltage on pin 5 of the LT1054 it’s dead. This seems consistent with your observations. The LT1054 is not designed to handle voltages above 15V so there’s not much hope here…
It’s not just about testing them. But realising that a good many of them put out a higher voltage when they are unloaded. Or will put out a higher voltage when their amperage rating is far in excess of what the Shruthi actually needs, as they are not loaded enough for the voltage to settle down to where it should be.
In my experience, switchable wallwarts are often crappy about putting out what they are supposed to be putting out too.
I guess a regulated wallwart would help, but there isn’t really much need. Suitable, unregulated ones are cheap and generally easy to get hold of.
I don’t think the Shruthi requires more than 300ma(??). I have 9v 500ma and 660ma ones from RS and Farnell and they have been fine with all my Shruthi’s so far.
The Shruthi doesn’t need more than 150mA. The problem is that it’s common to see wallwarts rated 300mA fail to deliver the 150 or 160 the Shruthi needs :/
Godlyke Powerall and be done with it! It makes all my Shruths work (at the same time). MidiPal too.
I picked up another (well, a pair, just in case) LT1054 and tested with the power supply I’m using for the other Shruthi, same result. Minimal power getting through to anything.
I checked all of the caps again and they seem to be oriented correctly. The only thing I’m not sure of is the orientation of the 4.5u caps that Olivier provides with the kit. As I mentioned, I assumed the long lead was positive, but I can’t see any markings on those caps that would let me check the orientation after-the-fact.
So, I’m back to looking for ideas.
Randy
These caps are not polarized, so no worry here.
Do you have a short between ground and one of the +5V or -5V rails?
Which voltage do you get at pin 5 of the LT1054?
I used pin 3 as ground and I’m getting +0.2v at pin 5. All of the red points on the photo are getting +0.4v and all of the blue are +0.3v.
I checked continuity between all of the green, red and blue points and everything seems okay. The odd one has the meter “hunting” a bit but it settles down to 1 quickly.
Randy
What are the voltages on both sides of D1?
When measuring a voltage the (-) should always be put on a ground point ; and the (+) on the point you want to measure the voltage at. Otherwise you are measuring voltage differences.
The hole on the header marked GND.
Didn’t mean to be a smartass. It took me a while to realize that once the board is powered, all the voltage and ground points are active/connected by the PCB traces. I mean this is really a “duh” moment, but it wasn’t obvious to me from the start.
I think maybe. You should definitely have voltage on the other side of it. ~9V I think…
I’m still studying this stuff, but I believe the stuff near the regulators steps the voltage down to 5 and then splits it into -/+.
This is strange, one side of the diode should be at the same voltage as your power supply…
A protection diode prevents the wrong polarity voltage from going through it and damaging the circuits behind it right? So what happens if the diode burns out? Does it stop passing voltage or pass inconsistent voltages?
The power supply flow is the following:
The diode doesn’t burn out unless you apply very high voltages to it. If you plug the power supply with the wrong polarity it’ll just block the current, but it won’t be damaged…
Thanks pichenettes!
I see what you mean. One side should always be input voltage. Has to be. This points to a problem upstream then, to SW, the connector, or the PSU. Right?
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